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Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back





Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:55 AM





By: Phil Brennan Article Font Size





Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the global warming theory?





Scare mongering appears to be the case, according to reports from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly “lost” ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.





Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.





The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind’s alleged impact on the global climate.





Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has soared in recent years.





As winter roars in across the Northern Hemisphere, Mother Nature seems to have joined the ranks of the skeptics.





As the Express notes, scientists are saying the northern Hemisphere has endured its coldest winter in decades, adding that snow cover across the area is at its greatest since 1966. The newspaper cites the one exception — Western Europe, which had, until the weekend when temperatures plunged to as low as -10 C in some places, been basking in unseasonably warm weather.





Around the world, vast areas have been buried under some of the heaviest snowfalls in decades. Central and southern China, the United States, and Canada were hit hard by snowstorms. In China, snowfall was so heavy that over 100,000 houses collapsed under the weight of snow.





Jerusalem, Damascus, Amman, and northern Saudi Arabia report the heaviest falls in years and below-zero temperatures. In Afghanistan, snow and freezing weather killed 120 people. Even Baghdad had a snowstorm, the first in the memory of most residents.





AFP news reports icy temperatures have just swept through south China, stranding 180,000 people and leading to widespread power cuts just as the area was recovering from the worst weather in 50 years, the government said Monday. The latest cold snap has taken a severe toll in usually temperate Yunnan province, which has been struck by heavy snowfalls since Thursday, a government official from the provincial disaster relief office told AFP.





Twelve people have died there, state Xinhua news agency reported, and four remained missing as of Saturday.





An ongoing record-long spell of cold weather in Vietnam's northern region, which started on Jan. 14, has killed nearly 60,000 cattle, mainly bull and buffalo calves, local press reported Monday. By Feb. 17, the spell had killed a total of 59,962 cattle in the region, including 7,349 in the Ha Giang province, 6,400 in Lao Cai, and 5,571 in Bac Can province, said Hoang Kim Giao, director of the Animal Husbandry Department under the Vietnamese Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, according to the Pioneer newspaper.





In Britain the temperatures plunged to -10 C in central England, according to the Express, which reports that experts say that February could end up as one of the coldest in Britain in the past 10 years with the freezing night-time conditions expected to stay around a frigid -8 C until at least the middle of the week. And the BBC reports that a bus company's efforts to cut global warming emissions have led to services being disrupted by cold weather.





Meanwhile Athens News reports that a raging snow storm that blanketed most of Greece over the weekend and continued into the early morning hours on Monday, plunging the country into sub-zero temperatures. The agency reported that public transport buses were at a standstill on Monday in the wider Athens area, while ships remained in ports, public services remained closed, and schools and courthouses in the more severely-stricken prefectures were also closed.





Scores of villages, mainly on the island of Crete, and in the prefectures of Evia, Argolida, Arcadia, Lakonia, Viotia, and the Cyclades islands were snowed in.





More than 100 villages were snowed-in on the island of Crete and temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldest temperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina, where they plunged to -12 C.





If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.





© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Could this be true?
Don't be silly, although shrinking ice caps are a sign of global warming, growing ice caps are just a strange anomaly that doesn't prove anything. Although hot summers in Paris and droughts in Georgia are a sign of global warming unnaturally cold winter means only localized weather. What would make anyone think that an extreme in one thing would mean the opposite extreme means the opposite thing. Colder winters and growing ice caps only prove global warming is true. please don't confuse the new truth with religion, although they look very similar.








True Bob, True, I honestly see this nonsence from both sides...lol
Reply:Al Gore has a screw or two loose
Reply:Any time you see a news report (or Press Release) making a claim about some report, you MUST check out the report yourself unless you want to blindly trust the claims about it (which isn't a good way to determine the truth). In this case, it's very telling that no specific identifying information about the NOAA report is given (no title, no publication date, no author's name, nothing).





The sea ice in the Arctic grows every Winter and shrinks every Summer. Other than the article author, no one is surprised about that.





Here's the actual NOAA plot of the Northern Hemisphere sea ice extent anamoly for Januaries over the past 29 years.


http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/res...


The author of your article, either didn't even look at this or is simply incapable of understanding a simple plot.
Reply:While we talks about Global warming, it'snot just extremely seek from the West side, either meet the South .


Global Warming are the completely matters, not just about ice melting or ice is back. Lets see the agricultures, industry, deforestation and degradation increasing the emission of GHG.





Even unpredictable climate change have caused the flood, deserting, loss production of farming sectors and land degradation.





For the 4 seasons countries...they need the warming area otherwise for the tropical countries need the climate balancing
Reply:You have to look at the source. Newsmax is a highly conservative publisher; they will put up anything as long as it goes against any "liberal" agenda.





Global warming is a very real problem, this article is highly erroneous.
Reply:I think it is strange how water will freeze in the winter and melt in the summer. The holy scientists and the All Mighty Al Gore should take pitchers of the ice caps in the dead of winter and not just in the middle of summer.
Reply:No. The crackpot who wrote this took care not to point out that, for each region that is colder than usual this winter, there are more that are WARMER than normal.





In short, he falsified the data by pretending that he was giving a representative when it is not.





BTW--in the winter you get ice. Duh!
Reply:I think you should stick to 'diet and fitness'. You have not really proved anything other than some places have had a cold winter. I, however, believe that a colder Europe has always been a prediction of global warming as the gulf stream is pushed further south and delivers less warm water to the U.K.


I am not really sure what you are trying to prove with this cut and paste but, either way 6.7 BILLION people are having a huge impact on the planet and that is leading to climate change. If you want to try to show that the climate change is bringing about record low temperatures then I think that you will have to try a bit harder than a couple of isolated weather reports. In New Zealand and Australia there have been record high temperatures and droughts. Remember that it is summer now in the southern hemisphere and winter in the northern hemisphere.
Reply:Global climate change = global instability.





It's clearly an exaggerated and biased account that ignores many facts, but it could have some basis in fact.





However, the fact that this has been posted over a hundred times already without a single source cited makes me wonder.
Reply:You are right, just scare mongering of people riding the last little crest of the global warming wave, in a few years they will all be denying that they ever really believed in the prophesies of the AGW zealots.





Today 2-21-08





http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/da...








One year Ago 2-20-07





http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/da...





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Reply:mamaraz, please! What are you saying?
Reply:Well...





It's somewhat true, but it doesn't disprove global warming.





The surface AREA of ice is increasing, as it always does in the winter. But the VOLUME is still decreasing every year.





And short term cold snaps in one winter don't prove anything. AVERAGE temperature on Earth is still going up.





http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/





Basically, just global warming deniers trying to spin winter weather.





It's a conservative source that is intellectually feeble, and needs to listen to these smarter conservatives:





"Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich challenged fellow conservatives to stop resisting scientific evidence of global warming"





"National Review (the most prestigious conservative magazine) published a cover story calling on conservatives to shake off denial and get into the climate policy debate"





Stinky - you're smarter than to swallow this nonsense.


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