Friday, July 31, 2009

The bible is a hoax??

Doesn't it make more sense that the bible was made in an effort to control the pagans (commoners and ungoverned) at the time that it was created?





500 bc - Old testament first completed: the 5th century b.c. and an age of war and conflict. Between 490 and 479 B.C., Greece was invaded by the army and naval fleet of the Persian Empire. By about 500 B.C. the Greek city states had lost their kings (with the exception of Sparta) and had embraced a new form of government through councils of citizens.





1st century A.D. - Creation of the 27 books of the new testament. It would stand to reason that there was a "Religion Race" as Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka first write down Buddha's teachings, creating the Pali canon.





by 500 a.d. the bible was translated into over 500 languages.





To me, it would seem that it's creation along with the coming of the messiah (Jesus) fit a little too perfectly into history. Especially since 500 b.c. was also a time of philosophical brilliance in the world.

The bible is a hoax??
If you think it's a hoax as you say. (meaning somehting intended to decieve)...you may consider working a little more on your argument. Also...you may want to refrain from using the terms BC and AD. Meaning "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini" (In the year of "our" Lord). Take a more scholarly calendars out there, not just the Solar Gregorian Christian based way of keeping time. The world didn't just start 2000 years ago, right? Also if you misunderstand or just don't like the Christian Scriptures consider looking at the Hebrew Scriptures and understanding what Jews meant by them, not Christian translators. Accordingh to Jews, Jesus' didn't fulfil any prophesy, but that is according to their own scripture. you think they might know how to interpret it. It is after all important to get to the base of something before one can move forward and understand any adaptations or alterations.





You mentioned the new testament had 27 books in the 1st century, but the canonical Christian Scriptures were not written until the Council of Nicea in 325 CE. the Hebrew Scriptures were completed in c. 440-50 BCE, the Septuagint (meaning 70 men on the translation team) is the first translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek ( c 200-50 BCE). The Christian Scriptures were not translated from Greek into Latin until the 4th century. The Latin Vulgate (c 380-390 CE) was translated by one man, his opinion alone, that was Jerome. In the 4th century the Christian Scriptures were translated into Gothic, in the 5th they were translated into: Armenian, Syriac, Coptic, Ethiopic and Georgian. The first English translations of the Christian Scriptures didn't occur until 1300's by Wycliff and then again in 1526 CE, when Tyndale smuggled additional copies and versions into England. It is only by 1800 that there were 66 languages had some amount of Christian Scripture translated and of those only 40 were the entire Christian canon. Gutenberg didn't invent the printing press until 1456 CE.





You may consider checking your historical data.





notice I didn't use the terms New Testament and Old Testament, for the Jews, their scripture is still valid, Saying Old Testament, implies that the NT has superceded it. Also very unscholarly. Additionally, Judaism has no problem with evolution or science, just to make you more confused, i thought I should mention it because people seem to think that Judeo-Christian is an acceptable term and implicate that the two religions are alike when infact they are not and they interpret things very differently.





I am not a Christian, so it's not important to me to prove Jesus' validity, I just want to remain historically accurate and as far as specific writings go there is some science to that and we can now determine the approximate ages of certain relgious works as well as their authors, who vary widely and are not often attributed, but write in the name of another, called: Pseudepigrapha, from the greek meaning false writing.





So study up and have a nice day!
Reply:i think the bible is a hoax , i live my life perfectly without it, its just a book that any body could have made up so people can follow it down the line, thats like if i right a book today people will be dum anoth to praise it in the near future, so dum it just a book damm every old book say somthing but we wouldnt know if its the truth it could be a lie for all we now people do lie in tales thats why we have fictional books mabey the bible is fictional lol
Reply:Yeah, IT IS a hoax! Good point buddy.
Reply:I really think you should consider 'starting over', by abandoning the virtually indefensible 'hoax' theories, and then evaluating the New Testament and the person of Christ afresh. Harness your honesty and your apparent interest in knowing God--on His terms. I hope I have helped encourage you (in these few questions) that there are probably reasonable and honest understandings of some of these kinds of issues, and that in following this process with me, that you might have developed some beginning confidence in the historical documents, and indeed, in the honesty and character of Yeshua. If I might be able to try to help again in the future, please let me know...I personally have experienced myself the kind of discomfort/agony you have felt in this torturous process...for I too have attempted, and do attempt, the road of honesty.








Glenn Miller, June 29/98
Reply:Of course it is...spread the good word, brother...Amen!
Reply:what's a bible?
Reply:The problem, which you attempt to encapsulate, is the Bible is a work that is actually several different books.





It's secular history of part of the world.. This is born out in the archeological records we have on hand and in other non-religious texts.





It's a history of a nation, the Jewish Nation and later the early Christian Nation.





It's a book of literature. Song of Solomon is an excellent example.





It's a manual for the operation of the human body. Proverbs contains many many many truths which have nothing to do with religion or God.





It's a book of faith. By definition, an item of faith can't be scientifically proven or disproven. But to borrow a line from the empiricists, a lack of evidence does not mean there is no evidence. A lack of proof does not disprove either
Reply:People who believe in the bible aren't looking for sense.
Reply:Did you ever wish you still believed in Santa Claus. I think modern day Christians have taken it a little too far. SInce the bible has all been proven to have been compiled by and overly ambitious PAGAN.
Reply:I think you've never studied it, that's what I think.





Unfortunately, alot of people laugh at the bible without ever putting the time or effort into studying it for themselves.





Too bad, since it contains all things needed for life and the answer to death, as well.
Reply:The Bible is real.





Jesus is my homie.
Reply:I'm not sure if you have a question here, but I respect your right to ask one. If you mean, "is the Bible a hoax", no it is not.





When each book within this book was written, no computers, cameras or tape recorders were invented yet. We don't have any physical proof to "show" you an ark, a flood, parting of the Red Sea, etc. so it was written down and handed down...sort of like when George Washington was president!
Reply:I don't know if I'd call it a hoax so much as a gigantic misinterpretation of events that happened long before they were actually documented. They were not documented by eye-witnesses but people who came decades, possibly even centuries later. Not exactly an accurate portrayal of events or words.
Reply:Hoax is a bit of a strong word. I prefer to call it the Greatest Work of Fiction ever told....





Iraneus, "Father" of the modern Church, made the decision that there will only be four gospels in the Bible...his reasoning? There are only four cardinal directions (N, S, E, and W), the wind only blows in four directions, and there are only four elements on earth (earth, air, fire and water). Now, if he could base a decision on such lousy thinking, it goes without saying that the rest of the work has to be just as craptastic.


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